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  • GooblyWoobly
    03-20 02:09 PM
    I have no idea why u guys get riled up about EB3->EB2 conversion? It's Not your Ration line FIFO. Are you trying to say someone who has 10 years of experience (5 years in the last company, so EB3) stands to get GC AFTER someone with no experience but a MS? There are many other loopholes through which EB3's can fall through. Just because you are frustrated with the wait, don't take it out on someone who is also on the same boat.

    Also your assumption of "Reputed companies don't do EB3->EB2" is outright wrong. I work for one of the most reputed companies in the valley, and they do it on a selective basis (read, if you're good enough, they'll do it for you).

    Remember this, someone can move to EB2 only if he qualifies to. It's not that you can just jump boat with no qualification. And if someone qualifies, I don't see why he/she should stay back!!

    I'm a original EB2 filer (no EB3->EB2 conversion) and not a LC transfer. EB3->EB2 increases timeline for getting my GC. But I do not believe that's wrong.

    Each one to his own!! My 2c.

    Hi Coopheal:

    With Due respects to your Seniority and Agony/ Frustration being retrogessed.

    Standard Companies donot opt for having two I140s approved for a particular employees which is a "Logical Fallacy" of EB concept. Leave alone Rat Desi Companies.. They can do anything and turn the boards off..

    If your arguement is right: first you have to stop L1s getting Gcs in less than 10 months.. (on an average). Porting EB3 to Eb2 is a big junk and disrepct to the EB2 Qualifier. Now, Qualifying Eb2, if you feel, is not a big deal, why the companies did not preferred it out for Eb3s in first place because lack of Job Requirements. (infact, this portings have to be highlighted to USCIS as Junk technique and illegal).

    So the whole arguement doesnot workout. Soon, wait and see Portings would bestopped, with Desi companies messing itaround like Approved labors (infact, it isa refined version of approved labor scams).

    Please donot jump on me.. its a waste of time.. But the logic holds good EB2 Vs. EB3. If allowed, People may even qualify for EB1, (People would work it out also sooner or later) Let's respect each other profiles.. and its a matter of time we are all there.

    This is my Honest Advice.. Trust me. I am a 2003 eb3 victim.. No way to jump lines.. its inhuman.

    Thanks,





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  • 485Question
    09-18 10:46 PM
    All I want to stress are these keywords in all our prints "Legal - Highly Skilled"

    And well learned.





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  • Canadian_Dream
    11-17 12:44 PM
    That's probably the path most people with (EB3 2003 onwards/EB2 2004 onwards) will take from now on. The only hurdle is there is no clarity about the law regarding H1B extensions granted on an approved I-140. Most people have run out of H1B and will have to change jobs on the extensions. I hope USCIS issues a clear guidance on this issue. Also you might not have to let go of the priority date if your company is kind enough.





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  • Jaime
    09-10 04:00 PM
    Look forward to meeting you in DC!!!!!



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  • rpatel
    07-31 12:43 PM
    The visa numbers for Indians in EB2 category is 'unavailable' currently. Every month the USCIS estimates (rather guesses :rolleyes:) the demand for visas in each category adds to it their own forecasted work pace and based on some super secretive formula comes up with a cut-off date....as we all have seen this formula is by no means accurate (knowing how it went from being current for all employment based category in sept 05 to unavailable for eb3 indians at begining of they year to the dates moving 5 years for chinese eb2 in a few months..etc ..etc)

    Wouldn't it be nice if USCIS gives themselves a break from the stressful guess work ;) every october and instead of giving cut-off dates, just make eb1-3 'available' for all across the board...then all of us waiting with approved i140's can file 485...get EADs..our wives can work...we can change jobs per will and live happily ever after...May be they can use the data gathered from all the petition received to forecast a better cut-off date for the remaining 11 months...And if they repeat this every year....the most one would have to wait with an approved I40 to file I485 is one year....I am sure lot of guys with pending applications at BECs would also jump on this idea and file new perm petitions...effectively reducing the backlog..if not eliminating it.

    Mean while I am proposing all this in humour and not advocating IV to adopt it in their agenda :) ...so don't start pounding on me just yet...





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  • ronhira
    04-11 06:05 PM
    Good point. I appreciate your hard work.

    This may be helpful
    245(i), Adjustment of Status Permanent Residence, Life Act | V Visa, K Visa (http://www.callyourlawyers.com/245%28i%29revival.html)

    GRANDFATHERED DERIVATIVE FAMILY MEMBERS

    Grandfathered children and spouses: Accepting Applications for Adjustment of Status Under Section 245(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, 06/10/1999 INS memo

    Section 245(i) defines the term "beneficiary" to include a spouse or
    child "eligible to receive a visa under section 203(d) of the Act." This
    applies to spouses or children "accompanying or following to join" the
    principal alien.

    An alien who is accompanying or following to join an alien who is a
    grandfathered alien is thus also the "beneficiary" of the grandfathered
    petition or labor certification application and is also grandfathered.

    Since an alien's ability to characterize himself or herself as
    "accompanying or following to join" the principal alien depends on the
    existence of a qualifying relationship at the time of the principal's
    adjustment, adjudicators must determine whether the relationship existed
    prior to the time the alien adjusted status. Officers should remember
    that the burden of proof to establish the qualifying relationship rests
    with the applicant.

    The spouse or child of a grandfathered alien as of January 14 is also
    grandfathered for 245(i) purposes. This means that the spouse or child
    is grandfathered irrespective of whether the spouse or child adjusts
    with the principal. The pre-January 15 spouse or child also are
    grandfathered even after losing the status of spouse or child, such as
    by divorce or by becoming 21 years of age, by the petitioner�s
    naturalization, through the parents� divorce, or even if the principal
    or petitioner dies. Grandfathered eligibility attaches to the person and
    not the petition. Many aliens with pending, grandfathered petitions or
    labor certification applications will marry or have children after the
    qualifying petition or application was filed but before adjustment of
    status. These "after-acquired" children and spouses are allowed to
    adjust under 245(i) as long as they acquire the status of a spouse or
    child before the principal alien ultimately adjusts status.

    An alien who becomes the child or spouse of a grandfathered alien
    after the alien adjusts status or immigrates cannot adjust status under
    section 245(i) unless he or she has an independent basis for
    grandfathering.

    "Aged-out" children

    Often, a principal alien who has filed a visa petition or labor
    certification application will have a "child" who reaches the age of 21,
    and thus no longer meet the statutory definition of child, before the
    petition or application is approved or the principal alien adjusts
    status. However, such an "aged-out" beneficiary will remain a
    beneficiary for the purpose of determining whether he or she may use
    section 245(i) to adjust status.

    Eligibility: An alien who is included in the categories of
    restricted aliens under 245.1(b) and meets the definition of a
    ``grandfathered alien'' may apply for adjustment of status under section
    245 of the Act if the alien meets the requirements of paragraphs (b)(1)
    through (b)(7) of this section:

    (1) Is physically present in the United States;
    (2) Is eligible for immigrant classification and has an immigrant visa
    number immediately available at the time of filing for adjustment of
    status;
    (3) Is not inadmissible from the United States under any provision of
    section 212 of the Act, or all grounds for inadmissibility have been
    waived;
    (4) Properly files Form I-485, Application to Register Permanent
    Residence or Adjust Status on or after October 1, 1994, with the
    required fee for that application;
    (5) Properly files Supplement A to Form I-485 on or after October 1,
    1994;
    (6) Pays an additional sum of $1,000, unless payment of the additional
    sum is not required under section 245(i) of the Act; and
    (7) Will adjust status under section 245 of the Act to that of lawful
    permanent resident of the United States on or after October 1, 1994.

    hypocrisy as its best...... need another quote from gandhi....

    u'r saying its crime for others to file application of their spouse & children...... aren't u waiting for the aos approval for u'r child...... but if other files for their family member..... according to u its a crime....



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  • imneedy
    05-06 08:03 PM
    We thought the same way 3 years ago, 2 years ago, and last year too, but nothing happened, it could be another year and we could be sitting here in same situation 2 years from now. Question is when IV has already collected money for FOIA request than why it is not proceeding in that direction ? We get it in time or not is not the question now....

    I second that





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  • Ramba
    07-04 07:25 PM
    Everyone blaming CIS/DOS needs to understand some basics behind this mess. Before going to conclude anything, first, one should read all the ombudsman reports for last 3 or 4 years. Former INS or current USCIS�s functions and operations were not questionable and not known to public till ombudsman office was established. Ombudsman has helped customers and keep helping to improve efficiency of CIS. Ombudsman main concern (or goal) have been over the 4 years are

    1. Primarily reducing backlogs in any application type particularly 485 and timely approval of any application.

    2. Abolish the need for interim benefits like EAD, AP etc. If they approve 485 in 6 months, then most of us do not require EAD and AP.

    3. Reduce the wastage of EB visas, as unused EB visas can not be carried over to next year (use it or lose it). Since 1992, about 200,000 EB visas were lost permanently. In 2003 alone, they issued only 64,000 EB visas and lost 88,000.

    The recent report to congress, the ombudsman scolded the CIS left and right for its inefficiency and highlighted how many EB visas were lost for ever, in last 10 years despite the very heavy demand for employment based green cards. Based on his report, both CIS and DOS try to obey the direction of ombudsman and modifying the 485 adjudication procedure. The reason for loss of EB visas in previous years not only due to inefficiency in processing the 485s on time, it is also due to lengthy background check delay by FBI, where USCIS has no control. For example, in 2003 they could approve about 64,000 485s only. It is partially due to USCIS inefficiency and partially due to lengthy FBI check. There are 300,000 (AOS+ Naturalization applicants) cases are pending with FBI for name check. Out of which, about 70,000 cases are pending more than 2 years. Out of 300,000 victims of name check delay, how many are really threat to the country? Perhaps none or may be few! Remember that lot of Indians also victims of name check and all the victims of name check delay already living in USA.

    The big problem is the timing when USCIS takes the visa number for a 485 applicant. Till 1982, INS took visa number for a 485 applicant as soon as they receive the application. Visa number assigned to a 485 applicant without processing his/her application. He/She may not be a qualified applicant to approve 485. Still they assign to them. If they found, the applicant is ineligible, they suppose to return the number back to DOS. However, this practice was modified after 1982. USCIS is taking visa number only at the time of approval of 485, after processing the 485 for a lengthy period. For some people, particularly victims of name check, 485 processing time vary between 2 to 5 years. Though, it is a good practice it is not the ideal or efficient process, due to name check delay. Let us assume about 150,000 are victim of name check in 2003. If they assigned all the numbers to these 150,000 applicants at the time they filed 485, the 88,000 visa numbers might have not been lost in 2003. Now what happens, those who filed 485 in 2003 (victim of name check delay) will take EB numbers from 2007 or 2008 quota, if FBI clears his/her file in 2007 or 2008. This will push back those who are going to file 485 in 2007 or 2008.

    That why, ombudsman in his 2007 yearly report to Congress recommended to practice the old way of assigning visa number to 485 applicants, to minimize the loss of visa numbers.

    Now lets come to July Visa bulletin mess.

    Because of tight holding of visa cutoff dates for EB3 and EB2 for the first 8 months of 2007 (From Oct 2006 to May 2007) USCIS approved only 66,000 485s. For the next 4 months they have about 60K to 70K numbers available. If they approve the pending 485s with slower speed or old cut off dates, there is a potential estimated loss of 40,000 EB visas by Sep 2007. Thats why, based on ombudsman recommendation, DOS moved considerably the cut off date for June. When they took inventory in May, there are about 40,000 documentarily qualified 485 applications were pending due to non-availability of visa numbers. The �documentarily qualified 485 applications� mean the application filed long time back and processed by USCIS and cleared the FBI name and criminal check, and found eligible for green card. Apart from 40,000 documentarily qualified 485 applications, there is thousands of 485 applications (documentarily not yet qualified) pending due to name check. When DOS checked with USCIS they found only 40,000 documentarily qualified 485 applications (in all EB categories put together) are pending. However, the available visas are more than 40,000 (60to 70K). Then they made with out consulting properly with USCIS they made �current� for all EB categories. This is how they determine �current� or �over-subscribed� and how they establish cutoff dates.

     If there are sufficient numbers in a particular category to satisfy all reported documentarily qualified demand, the category is considered �Current.�

     Whenever the total of documentarily qualified applicants in a category exceeds the supply of numbers available for allotment for the particular month, the category is considered to be �oversubscribed� and a visa availability cut-off date is established.

    There is nothing wrong with DOS to make all categories �current� for a July bulletin as per they definition of demand vs supply estimation to meet the numerical limitations per year. Perhaps the DOS did not aware of other impact of making all categories �current� ie fresh guys entering into I-485 race. Because of �current� there will be additional tons and tons of new filings. The rough estimation is about 500K to 700K new 485s and same amount of EAD and AP applications will be filed in July. But the available number is just 60K, and there are already 40K documentarily qualified 485s are pending more than 6 months to 3 years to take the numbers from remaining 60K pool. That leaves just 20K to fresh 485 filings. If 700K new 485 filed in July, it will choke the system. People have to live only in EAD and AP for next 5 to 10 years.

    For example, an EB3-Indian whose LC approved through fast PERM on July 30th 2007, can apply 140 and 485 on July 31st 2007 as per July visa bulletin. For his PD, it will take another 10 years for the approval of 485. During this 10 year period, he/she has to live in EAD and AP and need to go for finger print every 15 month.

    Therefore by making �current� for all EB categories is a billion dollar mistake by both DOS and CIS first part.. Another mistake is timing of rectifying mistake. USCIS and DOS and law firms should have discussed immediately about the potential chaos about making current and rectified move the cut-off to reasonable period to accommodate additional 20K 485s. If they modified the VB, with in couple of days after July 13, then there wont be a this much stress, time and wastage of money.

    There is nothing wrong in issuing additional advisory notice or modified visa bulletin to control the usage of visa numbers. The only mistake both USCIS and DOS is made is the timing of issuance of modified visa bulletin or advisory notice. It indicates poor transparency in the system and bad customer service. Now, they used all 140K visas this year. Assigning remaining 20K visa numbers to already pending 485s which are not yet documentarily (name check delayed cases) qualified is not the violation of law. It was old practice. In fact, ombudsman recommends it. They have the trump card which is Ombudsman report and recommendations. Therefore they are immune to lawsuit. Therefore, filing the law-suit is not going to help. The only two mistakes I see is 1) making all categories as �current� in June 13 and second is modifying VB only on July 2.

    My recommendation is to IV is capitalize the situation in constructive way. Law suit only bring media attention with the expense of money and time. The constructive approach is getting an immediate interim relief by legislation to recapture unused visas in previous years to balance the supply vs demand difference.



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  • dilber
    06-06 01:44 PM
    After long wait of 4.7 years ( i know it may not sound too long as some of the others), I finally got the card production ordered email yesterday. I was mostly a silent reader on IV but have contributed to IV few times since I started visiting since last year. I wish good luck for everybody waiting out there.

    Congratulations and good luck... Do visit us some times and help out with calling campaigns etc... Your voice just got way more important to the Law makers then ours :)





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  • jackrabbit
    07-17 11:01 AM
    (2) H-1B salaries are tax-exempt - no FICA, no federal or state income taxes. They can live at the same level as tax-paying Americans at a lower cost. Therefore, Congress allows foreigners to "low-ball" American workers.


    Does anyone know if we can sue them. I am sure that they are a registered organization.



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  • JazzByTheBay
    03-10 01:15 PM
    Most of our members lose focus after the first week of anguish immediately following a visa bulletin.

    After that, we willingly engage in:
    1. LUD-watching (as a sport)
    2. Social networking on IV (reading forum threads, responding, stating how anguished we feel, talking about our contributions to the U.S. and how unfair the system is... )
    3. Punching the clock, waiting for the next visa bulletin thread
    4. Posting and speculating on the next visa bulletin thread, while waiting for the actual bulletin to show up
    5. Continue to blame USCIS, DoS, the Congress, the President, and the American people for not realizing our importance.
    6. Back to #1 (rinse, repeat... ), and hope for different results.

    What we will not do (skip this if you are participating actively):
    1. Participate in IV activities/action items
    2. Willingly contribute time and/or money towards achieving our goals

    As President Obama says (Boston Globe | Obama: Time of crisis can be 'great opportunity' (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2009/03/08/obama_time_of_crisis_can_be_great_opportunity/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Latest+news)), an economic crisis presents the biggest opportunity for drastic change.
    "We've experienced great trials before," Obama said. "And with every test, each generation has found the capacity to not only endure, but to prosper -- to discover great opportunity in the midst of great crisis. That is what we can and must do today. And I am absolutely confident that is what we will do."If the President sees this time of crisis as a great opportunity, I see no reason why we should see the crisis as the greatest handicap for not working towards change.

    Let's realize that we will never reach our goals in this lifetime without working for that change.

    jazz

    the problem is that we come up with such ideas only when visa bulletins come ..after few days everyone forgets.
    there is not much direction from core either and that makes you wonder if there will be any campaigns at all in the future for recapture

    the problem is that we come up with such ideas only when visa bulletins come ..after few days everyone forgets.
    there is not much direction from core either and that makes you wonder if there will be any campaigns at all in the future for recapture





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  • mps
    05-15 05:34 PM
    Here is a list of F50 CEO and which college they went to,

    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1227055,00.html

    I see very few going to top 10 colleges.

    I'm doing my online MBA from Devry (Keller Graduate School of Management) and my spouse is doing it from UOP - at both the colleges professors are excellent, course material is good. Devry is more intense with midterm and final exams.



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  • ckichannagari
    06-10 08:44 PM
    sent the message ..
    I will be asking 6 more friends to do the same.





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  • sweet_jungle
    04-22 12:42 PM
    [QUOTE=caydee]Overall, the turnout was good. And the audience was very involved. The thing that impressed me the most was the resolve I saw in the Congressman.

    I believe two IV members were on the dais. But, I do not know their names. Who were they? Were they the ones who met the Congressman later?



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  • apt29
    11-11 04:38 PM
    Second step is requesting members to send electronic signature. Basically they have to scan thier signature and send JPG file.

    Will there be any privacy issues?


    VIN13 Posted Draft already in this thread for Comments. :)





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  • nixstor
    09-19 11:14 AM
    Hi,

    I was one of the marshalls, reached Los Angeles like an hour ago. The rally was a huge success, but not upto the expectations from the locals. There is no doubt there is more participation from CA members in both days 17, & 18th and I am not sure what stopped locals attending the rally when they have excellent commuting options to the monument and the capitol area unlike the west coast where we're forced to drive.

    I am sure that the local chapter leaders such as Arun, Sukhvinder, Sivakanth, & others put a lot of time, effort, & money into getting the permits from different authorities, display matertials prepared and delivered on time, and other logistics.
    At the same time, having 6 weeks time for the rally, I think the local chapters in DC, VA, MD, & DE should have taken a bigger initiative in conducting chapter meetings to improve the participation, and volunteer efforts in receiving people from the airports and/or providing accommodations.

    I spoke to one person from CA who came with all the checks written with the names & amounts in advance, and handing them over to the respective members who sponsered others for the rally.

    Thanks to all who made the rally a big success.

    I do support in changing the organization name to "Legal Immigration Voice" immediately.

    I will be writing more in the morning,
    Chandra.

    What ever stopped the people in MA/NY/NJ to board the buses stopped the people in DC/VA/MD to get on to the Metro train and come to the rally. Its not the distance, as it may seem to you and me, But Its the lack of will, lack of commitment.

    If people think about San Jose rally and think it was a huge success, people showed up in 2 days yada yada.., there is a diff reason. Does it even need to be mentioned?

    All that I can tell you guys is we did more than our best to get the locals to get to the rally. We can only call/email them or give flyers and let them notify. The final 6 days, our active members had stood out at every place they could and distributed flyers to 3000-3500 people. All the six weeks they have been doing spreading the word.

    I hope your message was just expressing disappointment by the turn out an was not actually questioning the commitment of the people who worked on this.



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  • coopheal
    11-11 08:32 AM
    If we are in sinking boat then lets sink rather than try to survive.

    Guy is telling lets try to survive. Lets try.... Its far from success but towards it.

    IV Core any updates?





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  • nk2006
    12-27 08:54 AM
    GUYS THIS SEEMS INCORRECT, I HAVE A 529 FOR BOTH MY BOYS......MY FINANCIAL BROKER SET IT UP FOR ME..

    I also have opened 529 account couple years ago (and contributing to it monthly ever since). No issues (no questions were asked about my visa status) while opening or during my monthly contributions. My understanding is, we can use these funds anywhere in the world as long as the money taken out is used for higher educaiton of designated beneficiary.

    The biggest disadvantage for us is in our jobs - so many jobs are advertised with a clear mention that they dont support visa. This is not restricted to some mom and pop tech shops even some bigger companies do that. Also in big companies where H1B's are welcomed (like Cisco, Microsoft etc); they dont take you if you have less remaning time on your H1B. I knew a case where a friend of mine was interviewed and offered a very good position in one such reputed companies. The interview/background check process took two/three months at the end of it they realized that the personal have only 1year 4months left on his H1B visa. So they told him they wont take him; reason given is company policy that they need atleast 2 years on your H1B so that they have enough time to sponsor greencard etc. There are so many such instances where we are losing big time on our careers in the peak of our lifes.





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  • rayoflight
    05-27 01:46 PM
    Is it legal to make photocopies of your passport in the US? They dont do it in FEDEX Kinkos etc., Ofcourse you can print it in your house.





    vghc
    07-03 12:24 PM
    I'm not being ignorant, if you are waiting, then there are many from EB non-ROW who have been waiting longer than you. How can you be so arrogant about waiting ? You choose to overlook facts about what EB category is all about. Its definitely not about diversity!

    Would you agree that wives and kids should not be included in the EB GC quota?





    nojoke
    01-22 02:16 PM
    Its been 8 yrs, 2 recessions, 3 layoffs, marriage, baby, home, an expensive car, and lots of ego.

    with all this going on for an year for now, I dont have time for GC any more.

    Do you?

    I still love my life whether depressed or surpressed - hahahahha!


    Take it easy. Best of luck.



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