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  • mps
    08-12 03:43 PM
    EAD E filed on 05/22 @ TSC
    FP done 06/09
    SOFT LUD on 07/22

    No approval yet

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  • eb2_mumbai
    09-25 10:37 AM
    There are too many assumptions here. How I see this situation is;
    EB3 I will not move significantly unless and until oversubscribed EB2s become current. Even then, it cannot be taken as granted because the demand of EB2s can take all the spill over and be current without spilling to EB3. USCIS will eventually make the change once they see that EB3 has significant retrogression and there is a lot of noise made about it.

    The solution I see is; we can make a valid presentation showing the effects of this spillover change in the long run and how EB3s will be affected seriously.

    This is my take on spill over interpretation and please dont feel bad if you do not like it. Lets take it this way assume we have 40K extra visa # from EB1 and ROW categories that need to be spilled over to ICPM countries. Now you have two options
    1) Spill it by PD. Which helps EB3 (I)
    2) Spill it by category which helps EB2 (I) & EB2(C)

    If you look at numbers EB3 I # are huge so inspite of pumping 40K into it the numbers barely inch forward. We have seen this all the way till 2007. Where as in just 2 years of spillover EB2 I has moved into 2005 with prediction of becoming current in 2-3 years.

    Now if I was USCIS director and going to Senate hearing. What would I like to tell them that I have used all visa # and EB2 & EB3 are severly backlogged. Or should I say I used up all visa # and now EB1 & Eb2 are current and we have backlogs in only Eb3 category.

    Just that I feel USCIS can claim more bang for buck when they spill in EB2. (just my theory not justyfying it). Also I feel Eb2 is used by large US corporations for its H1 employees especially STEM graduates working. Example Intel, Texas Instruments, Microsoft etc also large financial companies especially for employees on business side (not IT employees). There is pressure from these companies since they do not want to lose some one with business knowledge because of immigrations rules. Just look at how many times Bill Gates has shown up on Senate floor to pitch for EB immigration reform. If you make EB2 current you can shut him up since most Micro Soft employees are under Eb2 category. That way you are effectively muting the critisism againt you on senate floor.

    This way USCIS can also keep these people happy since they can claim that EB2 which translates as Exceptional Ability and Advanced Degrees are now close to current. The only catch is consulting companies and outsourcing companies have sneaked large number of people into Eb2 and they have become lucky.

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    04-08 12:11 PM
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  • eb2_mumbai
    09-25 11:22 AM
    This is what I call "tailoring message to our own needs". Lets take your example and I will do the same for you.
    USCIS certainly has a report by RD and lets say they are providing that report to the congress or the Senate. What would you see in the report ? There will be applications backlogged for years especially EB3 I. Just in my case, the 485 has been pending for more than 6 years. Anyone who wants to look in to the performance of an organization would want to know how well they are doing and USCIS has to show that they have applications backlogged for more than 6 years and cannot process them because of the unavailability of the visa numbers. Would that look good on them ?

    All big companies use both EB2 and EB3. We cannot justify one over the other with-out understanding the data. Again as far my understanding goes, I believe Bill Gates is a big proponent of H1Bs than getting his employees permanent residency.

    I beleive you are selectively highlighting facts. Forgive me if I am wrong but there are two issues here

    1) Applications Pending by PD
    2) Applications Pending by Category (EB 2 & EB3)

    Now yes I agree a congress man can ask like how come I see Eb3 app from 2001 pending with you since 2001. Which means 8+ years. With Spillover to Eb3 the dates max go to 2002 so the question would be app pending for 7+ years

    With moving EB2 they can least claim that they have moved an entire category to current. Is that right or wrong is entirely a personal question but it is a valid argument from their side. Also look at it this way Eb1 I & Eb2 I currently have a gap of 4 years. and EB2 & Eb3 have a gap of 4 years as well.


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  • NolaIndian32
    04-12 09:11 AM
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  • gcformeornot
    04-12 01:16 PM
    I was looking at a different file:

    any idea how i can resolve this?! :(

    the press release said.... they will return applications filed at wrong place with instructions as to what is correct location....


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    02-02 08:26 AM
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  • extra_mint
    05-14 07:18 PM
    Finally Greened. It's an amazing feeling.
    Just checked my MAIL (Saturday) and it had my approval mail as well as Physical Card. Strangely both came in together.

    Thanks to IV, I am not a donor but time and again I keeping making one time donations. This forum provides so much knowledge that money support is the most trivial thing that one can do.

    Few more notes that might help other folks who are current in May and waiting to be Green

    First I have email and mobile alert on for my 485 but got none and the status on my portfolio still says Request for Evidence Response View. Last LUD is still Aug, 2010.

    Second I had an RFE in Apr 2009, General RFE asking for work details from my employer.
    Got FP just once.
    My PD Jun12,2006 NSC
    I have not changed my company but my company had been bought and name changed and all this year I have moved and changed roles and profiles. Also I am on EAD though never changed jobs.

    I was anxiously waiting but didn't opened any SR or contacted congressmen. I was planning to do that next week.

    By the way I am still waiting for my spouse's GC.
    I added my spouse on my application in 2008 (last quater when dates touched Aug 1,2006 before retrogressing)

    I am going to party this weekend for my GC and next weekend for my spouse's :-) Only advantage of not getting both GC's at same time.

    Congratulations to all that got their GC this May & Good Luck to all those who are current in May and will become current next month.


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  • mundakamal
    05-15 09:49 AM
    Can i file it myself ? i did talk to a lawyer and she said we need a document from a company saying that the position is still open before we can file I485 by myself.


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    05-01 01:40 PM
    PERM Filed: 06/15/2007
    Audit date: 10/22/2007
    PERM Audit Replied: 11/20/2008
    EB2 Atlanta Still Waiting...


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  • priderock
    04-10 02:45 PM
    Agreed. But also please note that there is nothing called "GOOD FAITH". Just making a law is enough. It is US INS responsibility to ensure no one (mostly Indian IT companies and small companies in US operated from bedrooms, not basement or garage!! :) those created in garage are HP and GOOGLE) can exploit it. So blaming TCS and WIPRO and INFY and PATNI is not enough!! If we don't protect our house and thief exploits that to rob us that is our fault. This holds true for US INS too. And don't assume INS didn't know this. No exploitation is possible without Govt's active or passive approval. This is one big ecosystem and all have their share. That is how all businesses are operated across the world. Immigration is one of the biggest businesses here. And they want this chaos to exist for their interests.

    I think it is the Big Fish , that needs to be blamed. With the Visa fee at the levels it is today , small time companies can't afford to apply thousands of visas just like that , where as your Infys and wipros coud do.

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  • Humhongekamyab
    08-03 02:46 PM
    After 5years:)

    Congrats. Did you do anything special - SR, Senator office, Infopass?


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  • tonyHK12
    09-29 09:36 AM
    Illegals have nothing to lose. If CIR happens...they celebrate, now that they can all be legal and apply for their families to follow them
    If CIR does not happen...they still continue to live here, work their jobs, keep sending money home, and try and get their relatives over here by paying the "coyotes" makes no difference to them.

    Even if these guys are legalised, they will still NOT pay taxes, NOT learn english, NOT try and be upstanding residents.

    WE (EB) have none of the above and a lot to lose)

    Hence, the attitude.

    This is a great point. Also I see these days, people seem to miss what is 'Right' and 'Wrong', 'Fair' and 'Unfair'. Doesn't seem to matter much anymore - let Inertia rule.

    "Even illigal immigrants has more optimism"
    They succesfully broke the law and think they are above most laws now

    "If your lawyer and HR screwed you, it is your fault"
    Yes apparently this is happening for more than 100K EB3s. Bonded labor? well don't trash EB3s - you have to be very good to get an American company to file an EB green card.

    "Well educated and intelligent - Who? Did you mean Durbin and Grassley?"
    Well, Lets be diplomatic :-)

    Also I'm curious, why would someone give me Neg reps, are illegals lurking on these boards?

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  • hinvin66
    05-10 06:30 PM
    I just returned from an INFOPASS appointment for checking up on my case status.

    Their systems were down! They could not access any records, and the IO kept saying that it's down and you should get a decision in a few months.

    I was adamant, and asked her if it's possible to reach someone else at NSC - she called asked about my status - she kept saying, "good, good", and then she turns around and says that my case is approved :D:D:D, and that if I don't get my card in the next 30 days, (the usual stuff!). She then made a remark to the person from NSC that these guys know more about their cases than we do - as we go to the IO with all sorts of information about the VB.

    I made sure that they verified my current address, as I had bought a house and moved about a year back, but wanted to make sure that the address was updated after filing the AR-11 back then.

    So, the important lesson learnt was that cases are being approved, but the online systems are not being updated.

    Just hold on... It's on it's way. Will provide an update once I get the cards.


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  • lonedesi
    06-01 10:09 PM
    Is there anything one can do to speed up the labor processing times at Atlanta PERM processing center? They seem to have caught the flu from their Grand daddy(BEC) these days. They are taking for ever to process applications and no one seems to notice it, while their sister processing center in Chicago has average processing time of 2 weeks. What can one do to fix this problem? Please advise.

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    12-14 10:55 PM
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  • tampa2006
    05-16 01:16 PM
    Dear Friends,

    I called all the offices mentioned in the post.

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  • satishku_2000
    06-14 12:39 AM
    Why can't you search for preapproved labor to file I485 quickly?

    I have my own labor approved with a PD of 2004 and 140 pending. Thanks for the suggestion.

    You know what some desi companies are sending emails too , saying they have pre approved labors....

    It is totally unfair for the people whose applications are pending in BECS since 1999.

    06-11 12:52 AM
    Please do not stop because they didn't transfer you. The reason I say that is they keep track of the number of calls they get to sponsor a bill and they take our calls into consideration. one office I was talking to recently kept a tally of the no. of people who called asking for support and number of people of people who called asking not to support the bills. I was amazed to find that out

    I called 4 member, the person at frontdesk didn't transfer me anywhere. Also, they knew why I am calling and they remember all three Bill Numbers by heart now.

    When I said Can I leave the message then I was told we got your message Sir, and I will pass on the message to Senator.

    The frontdesk staff is instructed not to transfer our calls to the right person in their office. So after calling 4 members, I stopped.


    04-07 03:16 PM
    Your RD cannot be mid September. That must be your Notice Date. I bet your RD (the date CIS received your app) is either July or August.

    ty for the info. I guess u are way better off than me in that case, i've got a PD of July 06, and RD Mid Sept.... so a long wait..... for me.

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