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  • logiclife
    06-28 05:51 PM
    Does someone know what date in June they started turning back EB3-Other WOrkers?

    That was 5th June as per Oh's website and Oh's website was quoting AILA's memo.





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  • srkamath
    07-23 03:10 PM
    Legal, Thanks again. Also that is where exactly is the contradiction in analysis.

    In my understanding, they must apply any spill over to EB3 too. EB3 gets 28.6% of total quota (Including spill overs). If some one is sure that it is not the case, please correct me.

    If spill over was already applied and if EB3 will not open up again, then EB3 already got its share of spill over and EB2 also used up some part of that spill over, so only part of that spill over is left for the 2 months.

    If spill over is not applied yet, then EB3 should get 28.6% of what ever is spilled over to total EB quota. Hence EB3 should open up again.

    Please note that I am not making this complex. I am only pointing at complexities.

    The 28.6% does not apply to spillovers - it is only for fresh allocations. Spill over goes sideways first until all in an EB category are filled, then spills over to the next EB category where again it spills sideways first.





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  • GCBy3000
    11-09 10:11 AM
    Well said. These kind of feelings are general for human beings. But thinking and worrying about any problem is not going to fetch you anything. If anyone has problem, then they have to start thinking about a solution. This is help them to overcome the the real problem. Thinking and worrying about it will make the problem wrost.

    Every human being is having two virtual circles in his entire life. The inner circle is circle of influence on which you have full control and outer one is circle of concern on which you dont have any control. You cannot change the weather(outer circle). Worrying about how cold or hot is not going to help you, but you can wear adequate clothing(inner circle with your control) to over come it.

    So think what you can do with what you have in your control. This will bring peace and happiness in your life and eventually will enable you to overcome big issues in simple way.

    Ok now for BASHERS: IF YOU DONT LIKE, PLS IGNORE IT. I should add this in my signature.

    This discussion can go on and on. Here is my take.

    * US is one of the countries people are flocking into. Even lots of people from UK, Australia and Canada come here to settle.
    * Given this, whenever there are opportunities to lure people in, there will be takers and people who sell (like preapproved labor). If USCIS puts a stop on preapproved labor, then there will be other avenues to take advantage of.

    You may have others in your field/company who are less-educated than you, younger than you and earning more than you, so can you lose sleep over it? No! It is part of life.

    Just focus your energies on IV and its adoption. :)





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  • HumJumboHathuJumbo
    09-23 04:28 PM
    the day this becomes law..it would be better for all of us go home, bcos tht means lawmakers are ready to do anything to get some money and they know this country has gone down beyond repair.
    and the day it becomes law..i am sure the situation in this country will be so bad tht most of us wont even have jobs at tht time.

    very true! Its like you get a job as a driver in a middle class house in india and suddenly your master loses his job and is ready to lay you off. If you realize the fundamentals, you will find a job somewhere else. If you start begging your master to let you clean the dishes so you can still stay, then you got problems.

    In this day and age, everyone should know when to cut their losses.



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  • zCool
    05-09 05:08 PM
    All I can say is.. HUH???

    Now there are plenty of reasons to not go to canada.. but going to India and applying from there is NOT one of them:)

    Do you even know how long the wait is from India for processing time??
    It's 5 years and increasing BY THE DAY!

    for those in US GC and thinking of applying to canadian pr...

    DONT DO IT !!!

    You just end up spending around 3k-6k for you and your dependants, and it will go unused since you are waiting for US GC.

    the best way for canadian shit is to go back to India when you are sure you will not get the US GC. You can then apply for canadian PR from India.

    The canadian government just takes your money and you dont get jobs easily. Most of the jobs are for people with job experience "INSIDE CANADA".

    India is a good place to shit too. Your daily toilet does not HAVE to be in some other country if the restrooms in US are closed forever.





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  • Subst_labor
    03-17 11:09 PM
    well if you feel offended, i am ready to offer my apologies. are you ready to take back your baseless accusations-that got me started up in the first place.

    BTW, i dont even know what IV is??



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    05-02 04:58 PM
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  • gcformeornot
    01-13 08:55 PM
    Can USCIS face legal challenges on this? It was just a memo, no law has been changed by the Government; the laws are just the same they were when they let it about a million people or so through these IT consulting companies.

    Now they go back and say that was a misinterpretation of existing laws :eek:
    don't you think. AC21 (the famous Yates Memo) is also a memo. People expect USCIS to follow it though.... :o



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  • grupak
    02-13 08:51 PM
    Easy now!!! Simmer down.....

    Its just that every time the VB comes out, we get a lot of posts from folks from India/China who want to remove country limits. And they talk about only removing the country limits, as if removing country limits is going to solve the problem.
    You scare away ROW when you do that.



    Those who talk about only removing the country cap have not thought through the problem carefully. It will only slow everybody down. At the same time only increasing the visa number by say a factor of 2 will not solve the problem either since majority of EB GC are from a few countries.

    As paskal, others and I have been saying IV is for all EB GC, and we should look at solutions that help everyone.





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  • vbkris77
    06-16 03:07 PM
    Why do you have to resort to calling names ? Are ad hominem arguments the best you could come up with ? Let me give you an analogous case wherein people say that a recession is a good thing. Recession occurs in order to cleanse the economy of bohemian excesses and inefficiencies. Do you think that such people are sadists and belong to the mental asylum ? Of course there are people who get affected in a recession. Does it mean it is not desired ? In a similar vein, you need to understand that there were and are huge gaping inefficiencies in the current immigration process. There has to be a way to curb these excesses and inefficiencies. Retrogression may not be the best way but it is the only way utilized right now. If you still believe that I have to subscribe to these inefficiencies despite having gone through the immigration process, I am sorry I beg to differ.

    This attitude was the reason, it took India a lot of time to get freedom from British. Then lot many nobel indians thought British invasion was good for India..



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  • hiralal
    06-12 08:16 AM
    You are contradicting yourself in your arguments. One one side you say you are highly skilled on the other you say you are worried about depressing wages for citizens like YOU. If you were so competitive, why would you worry about competition.

    If farmer grassley's bill passes through, you are the one who is going to lose your job (if you are still working at MSFT). Balmer has already threatened to move the jobs out of the country if Mr Change goes along with his protectionist policy.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=345899&postcount=1

    BTW none of us on this forum favors outsourcing. Whether you like it or not, nobody can prevent outsourcing. Even if corn farmer's bill survives, outsourcing will go on. If you are looking for job security, you need to change what you do for living. This applies to all of us on this forum as well.

    Could the unions stop the shifting of manufacturing jobs to China. You are living in the capitalist capital of the world. Don't think companies will help you cling to your job just because you want them to.

    BTW you claim only 20% of H1Bs are genuine. How did you arrive at this figure. Have you interviewed each and every candidate who received H1Bs ?

    You seem to be echoing anti-immigrant's concerns. Antis also complain that MSFT product quality has been going down since they started hiring H1Bs. I guess they were complaining about people like you.
    guys / friends / fellow members ..LET US NOT LOSE FOCUS !!!
    why are we debating the past ..we cannot change anything .. these things (misuse, fraud etc) are part of life and it happens everywhere ...it is not in our hands ..hopefully these guys who do fraud will suffer in some other way (for e.g ..many bought homes at higher prices etc).
    let us focus on some sort of campaigns instead of debating (mr dilip in this case) ..believe me ..he will keep on debating and wasting our time





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  • mirage
    07-04 08:48 AM
    Chanduv thanks for your efforts. A correction: retrogression started in fall of 2004

    I sent this email to around 500 media contacts

    Dear Reporter/ Senator/ Congressman,

    I am an immigrant who entered this country legally. I�ve been waiting for my US permanent resident visa -also known as green card for the past several .....Day with the hope that people who played by the rules will be rewarded.

    Yours Sincerely,



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  • GC_sufferer
    07-03 09:27 PM
    We should ask Congress to postpone the July 30th fee increase while it studies how USCIS can function year round with the same efficiency that it showed in the last two weeks of June.





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  • vdlrao
    07-21 06:49 PM
    For 2007 we had an availability of 226,000 Family Based Visas. But the issued visas in 2007 in Family Based are 194,900 visas. That means there are 226,000 MINUS 194,900 = 31100. These 31,100
    unused Family Based Visas have been made available for 2008 Employment Based Visas of 140,000. And USCIS has 28,795 unused VISAS of American Competitiveness in the 21st Century Act of 2000 (AC21).


    American Competitiveness in the 21st Century Act of 2000 (AC21) had recaptured 130,107 visas.
    Out of that 94,000 were used in 2005.
    7,312 were used in 2007.

    So dont know when the available 28,795 unused VISAS of AC21 will be used again.



    The unused family based visas of 2007 are 31,100 , which are going to be added for Employement Based Visas of 2008. So the total Employment based visas for 2008 are 140,000 + 31,100 = 171,100.

    Theses 171,100 EB Visas of 2008 will be split like, asuming USCIS is not using the availble 28,795 unused VISAS of AC21 below.


    (If USCIS decides to use some or all of 28,795 unused VISAS of AC21, then the available Employment Based VISAS of 2008 increases accordingly. )

    28.6 percent each EB1, EB2 and EB3. 48934 VISAS for Each Category.
    And 7.1 percent each EB4 and EB5. 12148 VISAS for the last two EB categories.


    So in 2008 the total Visas for EB1 and EB2 are 48934 + 48934 = 97868 plus unused EB4 and EB5 visas of 2008.



    The total EB5 Visas usage never crossed 824 in the past 10 years(Average Usage is 376/year).

    So there would be 11148 visas available for EB1 from EB5 (assuming 1,000 visas are used in EB5 which is highly impossible)

    The unused EB4 Visas may be couple of thousand or null, based on the past 10 years EB4 usage (7,223 is the average usage)

    Assume there are only 2,000 EB4 VISAS unused in 2008 (defenitely it would be more unused).

    So IN THE WORST CASE the total EB1 and EB2 Visas for 2008 are

    48934 + 48934 + 11,148 + 2,000 = 111,016


    IN THE BEST CASE, ASSUMING USCIS USES ALL 28,795 unused VISAS of AC21 FOR 2008 AND THERE WOULD BE 5,000 UNUSED EB4 VISAS, THE TOTAL EB1 AND EB2 VISAS FOR 2008 ARE GOING TO BE 111,016 +3,000(EB4)+ 2*(28,795/3) = 111,016 +3,000+19196 = 133,212



    Total (EB1+EB2) from 1998 to 2007 --> 35737, 23401 , 47821, 84222, 78484, 29859, 63825, 107328, 58871, 70859



    So IN THE WORST CASE the total (EB1+ EB2) Visas for 2008 are

    48934 + 48934 + 11,148 + 2,000 = 111,016



    IN THE BEST CASE, ASSUMING USCIS USES ALL 28,795 unused VISAS of AC21 FOR 2008 AND THERE WOULD BE 5,000 UNUSED EB4 VISAS, THE TOTAL EB1 AND EB2 VISAS FOR 2008 ARE GOING TO BE 111,016 +3,000(EB4)+ 2*(28,795/3) = 111,016 +3,000+19196 = 133,212



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    Type and class of admission 1998-- 1999-- 2000-- 2001-- 2002-- 2003-- 2004-- 2005-- 2006-- 2007


    Employment-based preferences 77,413-- 56,678-- 106,642--178,702--173,814--81,727--155,330--246,877--159,081--162,176

    First: Priority workers 21,375-- 14,844-- 27,566-- 41,672-- 34,168-- 14,453-- 31,291-- 64,731-- 36,960-- 26,697



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  • immi_seeker
    09-17 01:13 PM
    I wish your prediction is correct, but do you think the spill over happens from the first quarter,
    As per the trend, we are seeing the spill over only in the last quarter from last two years.

    Assume the spill over happens only in last quarter. Then for the first quarter EB2I will only have 3000/4 = 750 visas. This is equilent to 300 Eb2I applications. We all know that there are atleast 300 applications easily remaining in 2004 itself. If that was the case why didnt the dates retrogress in oct VB as everyone predicted?





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  • hpandey
    05-01 07:54 PM
    [QUOTE=Originally Posted by Keeme
    Pandey - I no longer wonder why Mulayam/Mayavati/ Lalu and Paswan rule in UP & Bihar.QUOTE]

    Keemy this itself shows how intolerant you are . On one side you are trying to profess the cause of people from your community from a different country and on the other hand trying to denigrate people from another region from your own country .

    Just because my handle is Pandey you assumed that I am from UP , Bihar and look and behave like the great Mulayam and Lalu and Paswan.

    For your information I have never been to UP or Bihar in my life except once as a tourist nor my parents .

    Your love for Srilankan Tamils seems to be a lot more than your love for your own countrymen.

    Everyone else can decide what you are.

    As for me I am an Indian - nothing else nothing more.

    To Ms. Rambha - When India interfered in East Pakistan to create Bangladesh don't for a moment believe it was to save the Bangladeshis from suffering . Please read the full war history. In any case we are paying the price for that with more terrorists coming from Bangladesh.

    We have paid the price for Srilanka also with IPKF soldiers getting killed in 1987 and then LTTE killing our beloved PM.

    Peace.. I am out ..no more postings on this thread where people from my own country write words of hate for me out of their love for foreigners .



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  • visves
    02-14 07:23 PM
    If we increase the number of links from other web-sites, blogs etc to immigrationvoice.com, then immigrationvoice should show up earlier.

    If you google retrogression, IV doesn't show up until page 2.
    Is there anyway we can change this? So that IV is the first link that shows up? Anyway know about this.





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  • chintu25
    02-12 09:47 PM
    i see people making assumptions based on ROW..... Please explain how ROW dates affect India/China Dates ??
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  • India_USA
    06-15 10:13 AM
    Predicting visa bulletins is a futile effort. We should find a constructive way of passing our time that will actually bring about some changes.
    Just my thoughts......





    mirage
    04-20 04:39 PM
    This one is quite interesting...........
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    NAVSARI/RAJULA: Taking the 'weak' prime minister charge further, Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi said Manmohan Singh was the prime ministerial
    candidate only of the Gandhis and not of the entire UPA.

    "Only the mother (Sonia Gandhi), son (Rahul) and daughter (Priyanka) keep saying that Singh is PM candidate. He is the candidate of Sonia Gandhi's family," he said.

    "Except for Sonia Gandhi's family, nobody is rooting for Singh. Even senior Congress leaders like Arjun Singh and Kamal Nath are not acknowledging him for the top job," he said addressing election rallies in Gujarat.

    Modi appealed to the people to choose between 'dynastic and opportunistic rule' and a nationalist government.

    Modi also said preferably the prime minister should be an elected one and not nominated.

    "Elected PM reflects the strength of democracy while a nominated one depicts strength of dynastic rule. He should have the people's support not just one family's," Modi added.

    He said NCP chief Sharad Pawar "wants to become a Prime Minister. On more than one occasion, his RJD counterpart and Railway Minister too has expressed a similar desire."

    "Samajwadi Party chief Mulayam Singh and BSP chief Mayawati too cannot be ruled out for the job," Modi said.





    Sunx_2004
    07-29 11:56 AM
    Here is my case, Company A filed Labor GC for me, Labor filed 04/2004, I-140 approved 06/07, I485 filed 07/07.
    Company A got aquired by company B in 11/07, Company B filed 3 year extension on H1B based on approved I-140 approved H1B.

    Now company B filed amendment to approved I 140- My questions-


    Is my I 140 still aproved or it will start all over?
    I am planning to change the company coming October, Can I change the company at this stage. Will it affect my AOS in adverse way.
    What
    I need to take care of if I want to switch the job.



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