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  • bayarea07
    07-27 01:21 PM
    This is indeed a very entertaining thread, cannot help myself but laugh on reading the posts.
    But what is so amazing about these Amway folks is that now matter whatever way you argue with them they are utterly convinced that they will be millionaire soon.

    Whenever I am in a bad mood i try to remember one of the meeting that i attended where everybody was cheering for each others like 3rd grade kids.





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  • PlainSpeak
    01-13 06:56 PM
    My friend ..I care for you.

    MC
    Ahh MC you are a charming person using your charm to hit below the belt
    Now what do i do with you....

    I guess i will let this slide because i am not sure what your intentions
    If your next post are more informative maybe there would be a better reply (I know not that you care)
    Cherio





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  • at0474
    12-14 01:09 PM
    Don't be upset dude. I'm just trying to suggest so that we could think out of the box. I don't think I have a bad taste.

    Honestly, we tend to be discuss to much the law here. We are not experts of law and I think we should start calling our lawyers and talk to them about this idea. Let's see what our lawyers will say and then we can share those comments from lawyers.

    Please don't be upset.

    --Cheers!





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  • vivid_bharti
    05-01 05:51 PM
    Your statement is uncalled for, his opinion is not from people of UP or Bihar, everwhere people have different opnions, and BTW Nitish Kumar & Mayawati are any day better than Karunanidhi, Vilas Rao Deshmukh & YSR and above all they are a million times better than Maino Antonia whom the whole country voted..... Pandey - I no longer wonder why Mulayam/Mayavati/ Lalu and Paswan rule in UP & Bihar.



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  • PlainSpeak
    01-14 04:34 PM
    I did not see any plan yet. Basically he is wasting time with opinions from behind.
    Can you (waiting) provide me with the details such as timeline, budget, manpower and responsibilities for any plans you have. No i am sure you will ask some one senior for it and you know what none of the junior members would know anything about that

    Why the hell should i now layout any plan with detail of timeline, budget, manpower and responsibilities just because you decide to ask for it. Who are you to ask. What the hell ddi you contribute to this post except for abuses

    Has there any discussion on the topic from you you @#$#@$@#$X#%^^@#!$#$
    Have you come up and even stated about what you like or do not like about this plan. Have you ever been polite to any one on this forum

    Ok you know what if i agree to the point that all this is junk will you keep off this post?





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  • ganguteli
    04-01 11:02 PM
    Are you 'high skilled'?
    Your logic suggests otherwise!

    There is no word as high-skilled in the law. We all are in the skilled category. High is probably added by the media. Maybe because most people are computer programmers and it seems tough to an average Joe.



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  • HopeSprings
    09-24 01:41 PM
    The calculation done by Bharatpremi seems to have flawed while calculating spill-over. Spill-over is first by preference and then by country. That is how till VB of August 2009, you see ROW EB1/2 was current and ROW EB3 was U and EB2I was in 2003.

    Now, considering spill-over by preference first, the following could be a conservative analysis:
    I am trying to see if EB2I can cross Dec 2006 by end of FY2010. So, we will consider only those cases that might be placed before EB2I PD as Dec 2006.

    Consider all the pending EB(1+2+4+5) cases reported so far for ROW, China, Mexico and Phil and add it to pending EB(1+2+4+5) cases for India till end of 2006. The number is around 68000.
    Assumption (the numbers for FY 2010 for cases that might be placed before an EB2I case with PD Dec 2006) -
    - All EB4/5 cases till end of 2010 FY - 2000
    - ROW, Mexico, Phil EB1/2 - 8000
    - EB1 I/C - 1000
    - The new cases from EB2C (PD Sep 2009 onwards) will not be placed before EB2I PD Dec 2006

    Assuming cases cleared in the month of September - 4000 (around 7000 are eligible based on the cut-off date).

    Total visa numbers required to clear off EB2 till Dec 2006 = 68000+2000+8000+1000-4000 = 75000

    Visa numbers available for AOS for EB (1+2+4+5) in FY 2010:
    Assuming 15% go to CP.
    Total number for AOS = 119000
    EB1 (28.6%) - 34034
    EB2 (28.6%) - 34034
    EB4 (7%) - 8330
    EB5 (7%) - 8330
    Total Visa numbers available for AOS for EB (1+2+4+5): 34034+34034+8330+8330 = 84728

    So, total number needed to move EB2I past Dec 2006 is 75000. Total available for this cause is around 84000. If USCIS uses all the available visas, spills over only during last quarter and maintains Preference-first spillover policy, I think the visa dates will move well ahead of Dec 2006 by end of FY 2010, most likely in the following way:

    Oct 2009 - Dec 2009: Jan/Feb 2005
    Jan 2010 - June 2010: Mar/Apr 2005
    Jul 2010 - Sep 2010: Feb/Apr 2007





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  • sroyc
    09-24 02:06 PM
    Read any visa bulletin. It's in there.

    SROYC,

    Can you give me USCIS or any other authentic Doc/link which states ICMP share is 7% of 28.6% ? In years I have not found such doc. Therefore, assuming USCIS works fairly :D I had to divide 28.6% by 5 - equal share for each country within particular category.

    Yes, there are many other factors we will have to factor in like incoming flow of applications, swith over count, spillover at the end of the year.



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  • sumagiri
    10-07 04:47 PM
    I have built a very simple EB2-I Visa predition model

    Making following assumption

    15000 new EB2 ROW I-485 applications
    12000 new EB1 I-485 applications
    EB4/EB5 use 70% of allocated visa (30% spillover)


    EB2 Visa Bulletin prediction for FY 2010
    Bulletin Quarterly-spillover Annual Spillover
    Oct-09 22-Jan-2005 22-Jan-2005
    Nov-09 22-Jan-2005 22-Jan-2005
    Dec-09 31-Mar-2005 1-Feb-2005
    Jan-10 31-Mar-2005 15-Feb-2005
    Feb-10 31-Mar-2005 31-Mar-2005
    Mar-10 31-Mar-2006 31-Mar-2005
    Apr-10 31-Mar-2006 31-Mar-2005
    May-10 31-Mar-2006 31-Mar-2005
    Jun-10 15-Oct-2006 31-Mar-2005
    Jul-10 15-Oct-2006 30-Sep-2005
    Aug-10 15-Oct-2006 30-Apr-2007
    Sep-10 31-Mar-2007 30-May-2007

    Sachug, it is a great attempt to compare the quarterly and annual spill overs. I made rough calculations couple of weeks ago with annual spill over. However, I assumed around 25K ROW visas(both pending and new) for EB2. And assumed only aroudn 125K for AOS keeping 15K for CP. I will compile all of my assumptions and post here. Overall, my calcs estimated EB2 move to Dec 2006. By the way, I hope you took China in to consideration for spill over.





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  • dealsnet
    05-12 10:57 PM
    I am not a Tamil or Singalese. We cannot say Tamils went to Lanka and asking for homeland. The truth is both Tamils and Singalese migrated from India. May be Tamils went to Lanka before the Singalese. LTTE is a terrorist organization, but it gained popularity because of Singalese neglect of Tamils. I don't think the problem can be resolve through military means. The war will change from conventional to gorrilla within this year.
    Only political solution can bring peace.
    Read these historical facts about the singala migration.
    http://www.lankalibrary.com/books/sinhala_history.htm

    http://www.sinhaya.com/begining.htm
    http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-13173.html



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  • rkartik78
    07-18 05:55 PM
    Dear Attorney,
    I work in a Semiconductor company in Arizona. My company filed for my Labor and i140 (i140 approved in july 2008). Last July, I filed i485 for me and my wife. My H1B expired in May of 2008 and I am now on EAD status. I want to take up a part time job during weekends and weekdays after my Primary work hours. This new job is in no way connected to what I do in my primary job duties and is totally different from the description given in the labor cert. I want to know if it would be ok for me to take up such a part time job and make sure that no problem arises during my i-485 adjudication.

    Thanks





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  • PavanV
    01-22 05:33 PM
    Wow, you have a great suggestion for him, I am sure he took your suggestion and did the right thing, do you have a similar suggestion regarding immigration to Obama ?, if so you better let him know what you think, you seem very open minded about giving suggestions.

    Then please pack your bags and leave the country in the next flight.



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  • unseenguy
    04-01 04:21 AM
    One might ignore land-scams of Naidu and support him. One might ignore fodder scams of lalu and support him. One might ignore the bribery cases on tape of vajpayee's office and support him. Because they have positive changes to their credit. But how does one convince oneself to support the so called human standing on dead bodies waving a flag of development.

    Dude we are considered the cream of the crop who think clearly. How can we hand over the reigns of future of our sons and the well being of our daughters to a person who supported the rape and murder to young girls and destroyed livelihoods of thousands.

    Imagine our christian friends trying to convince the jewish friends that they support Hitler because he is development pushing leader who is also church going, non smoking and that they do not support the side which actually supports rape, incarceration and murder of thousands who scrap out their living in the country. There is nothing like supporting half a person. You either support all his deeds or you dont.

    Let me ask you this. I am a Brahmin and should I hand over future of my children to any other party than BJP? What should I read out of reservations for OBCs?

    Let alone reservations, now a days the people who got reservation are controlling everything in the govt. If anything goes against their wish, they are ready to file a complaint. Once they file a false complaint against you. The onus is on you to prove you did not call them backwards or discriminate against them.

    So are you saying we should vote for congress and so called reservation supporters and sacrifice future of our children?

    If BJP has blood on their hands for not protecting Muslims, Congress too has blood on its hand for persecuting sikhs. Were they not people?
    What about the riots after Babri Masjid demolition in Congress ruled states? Why didnt congress stop riots in Maharashtra?

    This whole Gujrat incidence is overblown out of proportion.

    Are you also saying US does not have blood on their hand of innocent Iraqis? Are you saying no innocent was killed in Gaza or west bank?





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  • mundada
    06-12 05:11 PM
    I hear you buddy but that is what America is and that is what makes America so great. The constant flow of immigrants will always require you to keep upgrading your skills and hence your salary.

    The moment you were forced to enroll in MBA in an effort to upgrade your skills and increase your salary means American model and (comparative advantage) economics are working.

    The same thing happened in agriculture, then manufacturing, and now IT and other industries. It is inevitable!

    By the way, it is not dumping. Here is the real definition of dumping, "the act of a manufacturer in one country exporting a product to another country at a price which is either below the price it charges in its home market or is below its costs of production".
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumping_(pricing_policy)

    For your information, I was, am and will most likely continue to be affected by the outsourcing/offshoring/onshoring/immigration/etc.



    I am simply stumped at the level of comprehension of the folks right here. Let me summarize my views as points and hopefully I will get through to you guys

    1. My mention of BITS was not to prove that I was the best and the brightest. It was to prove that my education was NOT subsidized by the govt of India directly or indirectly. Remember passing out of any university doesnt confer the title of the best and the brightest. Unseenguy - If you have kicked the ass of IITians, bitsians etc then consider yourselves genuine. Why this unnecessary trip down "Not confident about myself lane" ?

    2. My mention of MSFT was again not to prove that I am part of the best and rightest. It was to prove that I came here not with the value proposition of low costs but with the value proposition of hardwork and some talent. I did not compromise on my pay or did replace any native employee. Oh BTW I left MSFT in 2000

    3. My mention of the 3 layoffs and my journey was to inform you guys that whatever is happening now is similar to whatever happened in 2001. I wanted to calm down the nerves of the genuine people. Without reading and comprehending the posts, I get responses like that I was an illegal. Remember I was taken back in for 2 days, 485/AP/EAD applied and my jobless days were with my EAD in hand.

    4. One of the reasons, I am against outsourcing companies is that they dump low wage workers. If you guys are aware, every country, including India and US, has anti dumping laws to protect local industries. I am not against offshoring or outsourcing but I am against dumping. Some posters have questioned how I would be affected by all this if I were the among the best and the brightest ? Valid question to a good extent. If you realize that as you age your speed and dexterity at which one adopts newer skills start waning. How long do you think that upgrading skills in a single industry would be possible when you are going to be constantly competing with walmart style options ?

    For now I have chosen to enroll myself in an MBA program and I am hoping that my skills wouldn't be diluted. Think about going to school at age 35 with the responsibility of family and kid. This is my last ditch effort in upgrading my skills because it involves a substantial ownpayment. I am not sure about you guys but a 100K investment for school now is huge for me. The big question is, I am able to pull up my last bit of energy to upgrade now but will it be possible 5 years now if these outsourcing companies starting dumping low cost MBAs ? This is what I meant by my quality of life being impacted. If you guys think that you wouldnt go through the same scenario, then you need some serious retrospection.

    One last thing I would like to point out the inherent contradiction that the current prospective immigrants are facing today. GC is a process that is there to fill in the lack of skills in the US. However with unemployment running close to 10%, the question arises as to whether to train local populace for these skills. There are just 2 exits out of this contradiction

    1. Bring in low cost labor to fulfill this shortage and avoid local training costs
    2. Expand on a new idea. Green seems to be the buzzword today.

    In my opinion, option 1 is lose lose situation for all including the actual foreign employee who provides the services at a low cost. It is the outsourcing company for sure and probably the hiring company that may benefit. The society as a whole loses. Option 2 is an organic option but is laen with the dangers of delays in take off and boom and bust cycles. This is exactly the reason why I suggested that we cut these outsourcing cs from dumping bodies here. I hope I have clarified my opinions lucidly and hopefully look forward to a mature discussion as opposed to name calling, affronts etc.



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  • vjkypally
    09-17 04:00 PM
    October bulletin has already moved to Jan22'2005. From other tracking sites there are not too many Feb'2005 applications. But we have plenty of March 2005 applicants. Once it crosses March it will zoom ahead to end of 2005.

    But it could be September 2010 by the time it comes to March,2005.





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  • Googler
    02-15 10:28 PM
    My friend, I'm not trying to fight you. All I am saying that you cannot file a class action against USCIS because they have not done anything wrong. They are just following the law.

    If you really want to have this change, it is the US congress that you can deal with.

    As I've said, I work for a law firm.

    Why don't ask your immigration lawyer first regarding the "class action" you are talking about.

    (1) There was no shortage of laypeople and even attorneys who asserted that "USCIS isn't doing anything wrong they are just following the law" when it came to FBI name checks. Fortunately for all of us sharper legal brains and sharper judges prevailed, and brought us to this happy day.

    (2) On Class Actions: Villamonte, have you read the Mocanu decision (http://www.bibdaily.com/pdfs/Mocanu%202-8-08%20LEXIS.pdf)? If not I encourage you to do so -- that was just individual cases being consolidated, but the situation is not very different -- you should pay particular attention to the part where Judge Baylson recommends a multi-district class action litigation to deal with all the other name check cases (see p. 16, para numbered 6).

    The parallels between the those cases and the one being proposed are very strong.

    Judge Baylson is not the only judge who has recommended a class action approach to these issues. IV members should also be aware that all we need are a few named plaintiffs, it isn't as though every IV member or even everyone wanting to sue needs to be a named plaintiff. All the judge needs to recognize is that there is a large group of applicants with same or similar grounds for suing USCIS/Emilio Gonzalez. Edit to add: IV the organization doesn't even need to be the primary plaintiff, since that will necessarily cutoff any parallel discussion with the agencies. The IV forums are just a place to organize this.

    (3) Preliminary Ideas on the Grounds for Suing (courtesy lazycis):
    The grounds for suing USCIS is the same as in Gonzalez v Howerton -- (a) interpreting the law incorrectly (b) not following the statutory requirement that they use up all the greencards available in a given year and therefore being guilty of affirmative misconduct. At the very least, a judge is within his rights to make them make amends -- by recapturing 2003-2004 EB greencards, since they wasted them as a result of their affirmative misconduct -- they waited for name checks or simply not processing applications - no one can say there wasn't an application backlog in 2003-2004.

    (4) First Steps
    What we need here is to get this matter before a good legal strategist who is familiar with (a) the two sources of affirmative misconduct (FBI name checks and cessation of processing in 2003-2004) (b) precedents and caselaw (note that most immigration law firms are good with filing paperwork, but not necessarily complex litigation, so forget about the usual suspects.) The perfect legal argument will not sprout up immediately. In the same way that the legal arguments in the name check cases were honed over time (lazycis can confirm this), this too will need some serious research and thinking.

    Those of you who want everything about this case sorted out, signed, sealed, guaranteed and delivered this week will need a reality check. :)

    As will those of you who think that the way to approach this is to discuss these issues without familiarizing yourself with facts and legal precedents in some detail (so arguments about slavery etc are not the ones that will win the day in court, it is arguments that can show that USCIS was not interpreting the law correctly and in doing so caused harm and that the harm can be remedied through recapture.) -- if you want to see how a case like this will work read Mocanu and Galvez. This case will not be a dramatic movie-style civil rights case about slavery, it will involve the most tedious sort of nitty gritty discussion of admin misconduct.

    OTOH, for most of us, all we've got is time -- I do not foresee my Jan 2003 EB-2 India PD becoming current any time soon. I'm prepared for a long legal battle. I'd rather do something constructive** that will likely change the process than sit and wait and mope.


    **: Yes, I've sent off my letters too. I think of these two things as complementary projects.



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  • aps
    09-23 01:53 AM
    This is not fair and good idea. what about people waiting in line for years and invested their money elsewhere because of this green card delays or those who do not have enough money and job in this market situation. All of the sudden you are brining this idea. This is not fair. This is kind of buying green card. There is a investment based green card category available for that. I request you to go through that channel if you are rich. Not all employment based green card seekers are rich. Please keep that in mind.

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  • sumitpendharkar
    06-27 03:38 PM
    I just spoke with a paralegal at Fragomen and she assured even if USCIS issues a bulletin mid-month and retrogresses the dates, they wont be effective until Aug 1. So one could file AOS until July 31. This seems to contradict earlier response to visves's question.





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  • vdlrao
    07-16 10:25 PM
    Does anybody know how many EB2-I and EB2-ROW PERMs were processed for 2006, 2007 and 2008? Once we know these numbers it will be easy to predict EB2-I movement as all of the spillover numbers will be used primarily by EB2 India.

    http://www.immigration.com/newsletter1/attregusimmsuppo.pdf
    http://www.immigration.com/newsletter1/permstatsjune08.pdf

    Total Labors approved in year 2007 --> 85,112
    Total Labors for India in year 2007 --> 24,573.
    Total Labors for China in Year 2007 --> 6,846

    Total labors approved from Mar 2005 to till May 2008 --> 209,393





    vbkris77
    09-17 11:13 AM
    When it took about 2 years spill over visas (2008 and 2009) for the EB2 India dates to move from April 2004 to Jan 2005, I am sure you could estimate how long it would take to cross a year.

    On a ballpark, EB2-I has demand for about 50K immigrant visa numbers. Last year we got 25K. I am assuming we are going to get the same number this year too. So that cleared entire 2004.

    Next year the situation may be different, because demand from other countries is less, So we could see a bigger leap and might put us in early 2006 by end of FY10. FY11 may not be that nice when economy starts improving. We could be back to square one.

    Bottomline, Without a recapture, EB2I/C will not make much progress. EB3-Worldwide is only a place holder in the very long line.

    IV members need to concentrate on the recapture, filing AOS after I140 is approved, visa stamping within USA to make our life easy.





    sumagiri
    07-23 11:25 AM
    I am estimating around 75K EB2 AOS approvals this year. Please check my analysis here. The analysis is based on statistics, testimonies, and spill over from FB to EB as estimated by Ron Gother. The analysis was couple of months old. I believe it still stands.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=246481&postcount=1422

    Apart from total number of EB2 visas this year, one thing that is crucial here is how many visas are already used up. And thus how many visas are left for this year.

    In the USCIS testimony, it was stated that they already used up 65% of the "target" in 5 months. Assuming, they used up atleast 30% more in next 5 months, there is only 5% to 10% of visas left over from their "target" number of visas. Did their "target" included spill over? No one knows. Knowing that will put us in better position to estimate the PD progress.

    Though the EB2 moved until June 2006, I am hoping that most of the people before 2005 March should get approved. In that case, even if it retrogresses, it will fall back to March 2005. Once we reach March 2005, we have all statistics from DOL. So, would be easier to estimate.



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