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  • ps57002
    09-19 03:44 PM
    For next rally...slogan

    Legal vs Illegal Immigration
    Do YOU know the difference?

    or

    Legal vs. Illegal Immigration
    Know the difference...


    This is to prompt people's curiosity that there is a difference in the two and to have them educate themselves. Otherwise as said, all "immigration" to most people means "illegal immigration".





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  • bang
    03-08 10:17 PM
    Please let me know who wants to travel .. i can book a ticket for you ... please reply with your details i will contact you





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  • forever_waiting
    02-16 04:03 PM
    Completely understand.
    On a related note, as pappu pointed out on another thread, it would be really nice if senior members, in general, who have got GCs in the past years continue to stay involved since their past advocacy experience is greatly valuable. Several such senior members have continued to stay involved but some have taken a back seat after "getting greened". Ideally, it should be the opposite - shouldnt getting a GC inspire us to be further involved in the process and get the issue resolved?

    I see and agree with what you say. I sponsored myself the last 2 times I went for advocacy days but this time the situation is different - I've got my green card already and therefore finding it difficult to justify the expenses to my wife.





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  • kaella
    07-13 10:03 AM
    I think it was referenced some where else in this thread , anyways here you go

    http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/Immigrant%20Visa%20Control%20System_operation%20of .pdf


    Only persons with a priority date earlier than a cut-off date are entitled to allotment of a visa
    number. The cut-off dates are the 1st, 8th, 15th, and 22nd of a month, since VO groups demand
    for numbers under these dates. (Priority dates of the first through seventh of a month are grouped
    under the 1st, the eighth through the fourteenth under the 8th, etc.)

    Source please... or are you just kidding ?



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  • go_guy123
    06-08 06:58 PM
    Same old stuff. I dont see a light at the end of the tunnel till some immigration reform bill gets shoved in or a comprehensive immigration bill is introduced.

    The obama administration is not in a mood to touch immigration and we live to be scape goats of policies back from 90's.

    Immigration is the third rail of American Politics. Nobody wants to touch that.
    Obama and his party wont risk election 2010





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  • ramus
    07-03 05:10 PM
    Thank you.. Also please take part in media coverage thread...and also ask other members to contribute.



    Contributed $100 for the lawsuit.
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  • ak_2006
    06-10 12:36 PM
    Thanks Pappu to bring this to every notice of IV Community. It looks like they want to send every body out except citizens or GC holders.





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  • Libra
    09-26 12:10 PM
    No, dont worry about it, it's proved that together we can do anything. so please unite and work for our cause.

    She changed the article, but shouldn't we ask her to apologize for misinforming people???



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  • Dhundhun
    07-13 11:48 PM
    I read somewhere that now all the applications - 485/EAD/AP, for one particular applicant, are adjudicated by the same officer. This is a new process change to improve efficiency. I think the article I read indicated that it was already working that way at TSC.

    Unfortunately, i don't have the link, but I will post it if i come across it.

    My case (I485) is with NSC. The e-filed EAD renewal also got LIN number, but (may be due to load distribution) it is being handled by MSC.

    Does this imply everything will be handled by MSC instead of TSC? I think source article is needed to analyze, what is happening.





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  • vansree
    07-13 06:29 PM
    I talked to her related my case complexity - Border revoking my visa - She just wants money. She cannot provide any clear details, any expectations.

    Just to be part of the cloud and claim something she did, actually apart from the web site, she wont even talk to you once take up the case. Some of her colleagues or assistants talk.

    She just want to get money ... Being Indian, I can say she is typical person for money. Highly C** mind...

    if it is trouble some, she wont even reply!



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  • cps060
    01-31 04:50 PM
    Just to add further, I am on H1-B with I-140 approved too. Instate-tuition etc are not my concerns now. Just whether he can get I-539 approval or he should plan for H4.





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  • keshtwo
    07-09 04:40 PM
    I hope this lawsuit fails. Looking ahead this lawsuit, if it succeeds might do us more damage than good. Law of unintended consequences states that something can happen we haven't thought of.
    Supposing, if lawsuit goes ahead and wins, one outcome might be - USCIS might start adhering to strict interpretation of 7% per country, or curtail spillovers drastically. Then we are in deep shit.



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  • nojoke
    01-22 02:16 PM
    Its been 8 yrs, 2 recessions, 3 layoffs, marriage, baby, home, an expensive car, and lots of ego.

    with all this going on for an year for now, I dont have time for GC any more.

    Do you?

    I still love my life whether depressed or surpressed - hahahahha!


    Take it easy. Best of luck.





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  • FrankZulu
    01-31 08:54 AM
    Desi3933, I appreciate the time you have taken to explain the details for people in this situation.



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  • prioritydate
    09-20 10:08 AM
    These stories are scary


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080918/ap_on_bi_ge/ny_economy_4




    By MICHAEL GORMLEY, Associated Press Writer Thu Sep 18, 1:03 PM ET

    ALBANY, N.Y. - A new projection shows Wall Street's meltdown will likely cost New York state up to 40,000 private sector jobs and $3 billion in tax revenues over the next two years, two state officials said Thursday.
    ADVERTISEMENT

    The revised numbers in the snapshot of worst case estimates was done Wednesday at the highest levels of New York's state government.

    The projection is worse than Gov. David Paterson predicted just Tuesday when he said the state could lose some $1 billion in revenue because of upheaval in the financial sector.

    Wall Street is a major economic force in New York state, generating one-fifth of the state's revenues each year.

    The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to comment on the fiscal analysis.

    Both hits would be substantial. The total New York state budget including federal funds is about $120 billion, and the state has about 7.25 million private-sector jobs.

    State officials used the model of the fiscal damage to New York after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Then, Gov. George Pataki said it was the worst financial hit to New York since the Great Depression 70 years earlier.

    The new analysis includes the stock market drop, lost revenue from transactions and projected lost income tax revenue from Wall Street jobs.

    Three of the five major U.S. investment banks � Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch � have either gone out of business or been driven into the arms of another bank. The two remaining banks, Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Morgan Stanley, are under siege.

    Oh man! that is really scary.





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  • abhishek101
    12-26 04:06 PM
    You have pretty much written my hit list. I could not have put it in better words.

    Just to add I work for a bank and to open an account within bank I had to go through a long paper process, whereas any outsider (Citizen/GC) can get it in 5 min online.

    But as a bank employee I do understand that while we at bank would love to open all accounts online (less cost and all) the US government has restrictions under Know your customer requirement, that prevents us from doing so. So while most of the business understand that they are losing business they are pretty much restricted by the laws of the land.

    there are two ways out of it:

    1. Support legislative action for getting GC faster, for that support IV.
    2. Make the immigrant group a huge economic success that the business has incentive to provide it better services.



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  • mbartosik
    09-19 03:52 AM
    first - glad you liked my little skit / comedy show, Arman asked me to write a speech, I don't think that was quite what he had in mind when he asked me to speak :D

    That was actually a toned down version of my skit :D I took out many of gags and would have loved to put more in.

    I hope that a video will be posted, the crowd reaction was fantastic, at least that's what it sounded like from the stage. I had so many people coming up to me after. I've still not quite come down from it. It was fun to deliver too.

    ------

    I like to idea of legalimmigrationvoice.org
    legalimmigrationvoice.com points here, but I see that
    legalimmigrationvoice.org has this
    "If you are interested to have this website please contact us at registerflyaccount@yahoo.com"
    I hope that was one of us that registered it (not a camper).

    On the rally I saw lots of positive reactions, and just one negative reaction, and I think that he could not read or just assumed illegal, he called out "it will never happen". Even if we had signs that said "We are legal" some would still assume that we were undocumented because they would think that we were only claiming not to be criminals since crossing the boarder without presenting oneself for inspection is technically a civil offense I think. If we all wore suits the mistake would have been made less. The undocumented issue is so embedded in the public's minds.

    Signs do need to be more brief.

    The anonymity of a forum alias is not a good thing I think. Although the aliases are often cute. Some people called and asked if they had to give their names at registration. The boggy man will not get us! Big brother is not watching, remember he can only afford $2 for name check, so he cannot afford prospection glasses. Also it is handy to know people's names.

    Yes we are mostly Indian and mostly Indian and Chinese have really bad delays. But it is unhelpful refer to Indians and Chinese joining forces, or this being an Indian org. etc. I put a lot of effort into trying to show my face in places to make the point that we are not just Indians and Chinese.
    (Being a minority Anglo Saxon here I also put a lot of effort into emphasizing dropping country quotas.)

    I wore a suit, 3 piece, yes my shirt was sweaty, but that was not caused by the rally it is was my crazy schedule of back to back meetings, and running around logistics organizing. Ironically I rarely wear a suit at work.

    Maybe holding a few signs with our job titles would make the point. I think that would have helped reporters pick people out for interviews.

    I think that Aman learnt that he needed at least 2 personal assistants on the day.





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  • amsgc
    02-04 02:12 AM
    See response below.

    Folks,

    I am not a naysayer, I think the IV core team has done a great job of giving a voice to us.

    But, there are a few questions that I am not convinced myself:

    1. why remove per country quota just for EB, why not family based immigration as well?

    => Unlike family based immigration, Employment based immigration is based on the expressed need of US businesses for skilled labor. The position filled by EB based immigrants are first advertised in the local market, and if a US Citizen or LPR is not found with the requisite skills, only then is that job offered to a foreigner with the requisite skills. This means that the foreigner is needed by the US business to perform services on a permanent basis. In essence, the US gets a well trained and experienced foreign worker who is able to contribute to the economy on the day he gets his Green Card. It is very important to note that this job offer is made solely on the skills, education and experience of the foreigner, and the need expressed by a business. Also note that these individuals constitute only 14% of total immigration.

    On the other hand, there is absolutely no information on how an individual who comes in through family based immigration will be able to find a job, and start contributing to the economy. I am not saying that these individuals are incompetent, only that there is no data on how they will fit in. If you look around you, you will find that most people who enter the US through family based immigration lack language skills, are much older, and find it difficult to start over and assimilate in a new country. Many end up doing odd jobs which can be really frustrating for them. Since there is really no business need for these individuals in this country, and because they are whopping 86% of all immigration, a cap on family based immigration does make sense.

    You also need to understand the other important difference – most EB folks have already assimilated into this culture – they have been here for several years, worked a couple of jobs and in many cases attended US graduate schools.



    2. what will happen after removing per country limits, what kind of numbers are we looking at? how many new PRs? What is the impact on the country,economic, social, cultural, I do care about the USA.

    => The result of removing per country limits will be that every individual will be given an equal opportunity to immigrate to the US based on their skills, education, and the specific need expressed by a US business. It will be a system where everybody gets in one line - first in, first out. Some will say that the current system is fair because every "country" gets a fair chance. But that is just and attempt to mislead. The "country" does not file a petition to immigrate; it is a skilled individual who files a petition to immigrate based on his skills, education and his requirement in the US.

    Regarding numbers - I will give you a simple example. My GC process was started 3 years ago. My co-worker, who is from a non-retrogressed country, started his application last year. We both applied in the same category, and work in similar positions. We also have similar skills - US MS in CS. Because of the country caps, my application is still pending, whereas he already got his GC. If the country caps were removed, my wait time would have reduced by a year, his wait time would have increased by a year - we both would get the GC after waiting approximately the same amount of time. It would have been a first in, first out system. But it is not so, and it needs to be fixed.

    Like you, we all care about the USA. I assure you that it will have only a positive social and cultural impact on the US. Why? Because removal of country caps would lead to a system that is based solely on merit and hard work. Isn't that what this country is about?

    Regarding diversity – the individuals from retrogressed countries are already here, assimilating into the American fabric. Whether you give them the GC now or ten years from now, they will still be here - it will not change the ethnic character of this country.

    3. By asking legislators to remove these per country quota limits, isn't this a paradigm shift in thinking?

    => This is not a paradigm shift. If you open your eyes and ears you will find hundreds of organizations set up across the US to educate and influence lawmakers about policies that should be put in place to better serve this country.

    When I, a guy impacted by this EB backlog am not convinced, how the heck are we going to make a case to some congressman/woman?

    => Once you begin to feel the pain, you will understand. Perhaps you are new to the system, and are hoping that it will get better. It will not be long before you will suddenly find that a good number of years have gone by just waiting.

    We should definitely move away from this snobbish view that EB folks are better than others, or that the USA needs the EB folks more than EB folks need the USA.

    => I am not sure where you get that EB folks are snobbish. It is not our issue - so whatever FB folks decide, it is up to them. Also, nobody said USA needs more EB folks, US businesses need the EB folks for whom a petition to immigrate has been filed and approved. Get the difference?


    That said, I do believe that we have a humanitarian case for folks like us who are already in the queue. Educating congress about the path taken by the average EB immigrant would help.
    => You just contradicted yourself. A few sentences ago you seemed to imply that you really did not understand what could be gained by removing the country caps.


    At the end of the day human life is human life even it is it Indian.
    => Really don't know what you are trying to say here. Anyway, if you feel the need to respond to this message, please do so after updating your profile.





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  • mirage
    02-03 08:33 PM
    We may not see each other eye to eye on this issue, but any idea is certainly welcome. On the other note I'm certainly going to call lawmakes office and convince them to get this done, you may say we should wait for the right time to arrive but I personally feel, there is no better time than now.
    Look mirage, I want to help in anyway I can, and I know your intensions are good, but good intensions and mere frustartion arenot enough to produce the desired results. The effort has to timed well. Bush had good intensions, atleast thats what he said, but the outcome was not how everyone desired. I am telling you, conserve your energy for the right time, don't lose steam and willingness to do something about the issue, but do not waste your energy. Use it wisely. Although, I must say that I have witnessed a lot of gurus in these forums. Sometimes I see them logged in, but they do not always post. If I were you, I would do my hiomework, get those folks on board, chose the right time, and put in the best effort.

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    god_bless_you
    12-13 10:57 AM
    I know , More than 50% of IV members who can not file I 485 due to retrogression will be happy to pay this nominal amount of $10 to fax letter to USCIS for rule change
    but What is the stand of Core group on this?
    No update from any one!!





    thomachan72
    05-26 05:00 PM
    The point, like ACLU said, is : People should not be stopped/searched/questioned for no reason. It must be done only in response to a suspicious activity.

    This treatment of non-citizens vs. citizens is similar to black people not allowed to sit in the front seats. Just a new form of profiling.
    I completely agree. This is supposed to be the most advance nation on earth. If we show the drivers lisense and give them the social security number, shouldn't they be able to see whether we are legal or not? Carrying the I-94 is a possibility but it is not a picture ID. I am sure they will ask for passport if you only have the I-94. Now if I am required to carry my passport all the time that becomes a real pain particularly if we are on H1/L1 and present for quite a long time. I understand such requirements for B1/B2 who dont establish residence and are either in a hotel / somebody elses apartment. The bottom line is, "times are bad and they are looking for somebody to direct all their anger and unfortunately it is us that they have chosen". I still dont understand the logic behind this. Americans hate people comming here to work but appreciate people staying in their own country and producing cheap goods to be marketted here. There is also this quite ridiculous situation with the drivers lisense, right? most states we have to retake the whole damn test, yes computer and the acutal driving test, each year when we renew the H1b!! Interesting way the past immigrants treat the future immigrants!!



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