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  • bestin
    02-13 05:43 AM
    Agreed dude.

    But the system is totally messed up and we cant have an overnight change .Even if they initiate something now by the time it gets actually implemented it shuld be more than 1 year.If nothing works out within atleast 1.5 years to 2 years this should be definitely considered.





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  • ksvreg
    10-15 03:24 PM
    If spillover works, logic is simple. Pending applications ~290K. Quot available ~140k
    So, in just two years, every category should be current. Lets not scratch our heads.

    Please work out the data versus pending/quota/spillover. Do VISA DATES ENGINEERING. And figure out the visa dates process/workflow and put in front of DOS/USCIS to adopt. Or lobby to adopt. or rally to adopt.

    Otherwise our math will always be different from DOS/USCIS math on visa dates ;)





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  • meridiani.planum
    07-30 06:31 AM
    http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5766

    posted 07-24 09:59 AM

    Ron Gotcher has some thoughts on India E2 movement over the next two months.

    More and more, I see people posting messages containing the unspoken assumption that since the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward, it is likely to move forward further in the coming months. This is a false hope.

    Even with a cutoff date in early 2003, the CIS has sufficient inventory of Indian E2 adjustments on file to use up the remaining inventory of E2 visas for this fiscal year. The reason that the Visa Office advanced the priority date is to move it up to the point where overseas consular posts can take up the slack left by the CIS's inability to close out enough cases and avoid wasting visas this year.

    The CIS inventory of pending cases is massive. If there were no quota at all - if everyone were suddenly "current" - and no new cases were filed after today, it would still take the CIS four to five years to close out all of the pending cases that they already have in their inventory.

    Overseas consular posts maintain inventories of cases as well. When the priority date for a particular case starts to edge forward and it appears that the applicant may become "current' in the not too distant future, the applicant is told to submit all required supporting documents to the post or the NVC. When this is done, the applicant is reported to the Visa Office as being "documentarily qualified." This means that the case is in a position where an immigrant visa can be issued to the applicant as soon as a visa number becomes available.

    The inventory of documentarily qualified cases with current priority dates at a consular post never exceeds that post's ability to process all such cases within sixty days. Consular posts have very high bandwidth processing capabilities. No matter how many cases become current, they are able to process all of them within sixty days.

    The reason that the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward is that the Visa Office fears that the CIS will not be able to adjudicate enough adjustment of status applications to exhaust the annual quota. They have advanced the cutoff date in order to make more cases overseas eligible for final processing.

    This means that overseas consular posts have exhausted their inventories of Indian E2 cases with priority dates earlier than 2006 and the Visa Office had to move the cutoff date forward in order to make more cases eligible to be closed out.

    This does not mean that the CIS has closed out all of the pre-2006 cases pending in their inventory. Far from it. When the new fiscal year starts, Indian E2 is likely to retrogress back to late 2002 or early 2003. This is roughly the point reached by the CIS in processing their inventory of pending cases.

    Please understand that this is a temporary phenomenon and due entirely to the difference in the processing capabilities of the CIS and the overseas consular posts.

    I hope this clarifies matters.

    Ron Gotcher

    this makes no sense (with all due respect to Mr Gotcher). He basically claims that PD has been moved to allow CP cases to be processed faster to avoid visa number wastage.. However he also says that there is a huge backlog of AOS cases. Looking at how many CP cases are being called for interview in mumbai and delhi (low hundreds) I dont see how CP alone can help avoid a big wastage of visas. If USCIS is still 20k short, then its the massive pile of AOS cases they should be using, just like they did last year.

    Also, if they waste visa numbers this year, it would be really gross incompetence. EB2-India has gone all the way from 2000 to 2006 this year. They slack off at the start of the year, then scramble in the end. I dont know why they follow this approach knowing full well that right at the end it puts them in a soup.





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  • PlainSpeak
    01-14 01:16 PM
    PlainSpeak,
    I say this in the nicest way possible.

    1. Instead of wasting time by answering here on the post, do something constructive for your own gc (whatever that may be).
    2. If you do not believe in IV and what it does, you are truly wasting your time. Second, which IV provision do you not believe in - visa recapture? excluding dependents from being counted? removal of country caps? which one of these hurts your prospects of getting the gc?
    3. Watching cspan definitely gives a person a better understanding of what is happening. No questions about it. But it is a passive exercise, as there is nothing you have done or can do or will do to change the outcome of what is happening.
    4. Let us hope that this DV bill goes somewhere - what kind of activities do you suggest we should do to prepare for it? With specific details, you may be able to persuade people.
    Ahh my friend willgetgc you are back and thanks for asking nicely. That is really appreciated. Ahh i see that you still have a tinge of anger but no problem. this is progress

    1. Instead of wasting time by answering here on the post, do something constructive for your own gc (whatever that may be).
    Some one has to make it clear and by that i mean explicityly clear to you all that the fact is you people are not the only ones who can write eloquontly and articulate and idea. And that your mob mentality ganging will not work anymore, There are other peoples out there and they also have idea and this is the one way to make sure all you people read what is going on becasue my friend you all are reading. This is the first step. The next step would be discussion of an idea and so one

    2. If you do not believe in IV and what it does, you are truly wasting your time. Second, which IV provision do you not believe in - visa recapture? excluding dependents from being counted? removal of country caps? which one of these hurts your prospects of getting the gc?
    None hurt my prcopect instal All are good for my prospect but my simple statement is that nothing small has passed in congress so there is no gaurentee that anything big will pass so instead of hangng on to the same old ideas (We can all can go back to them when there is mommentum on it) it is time to think about new out of box ideas

    3. Watching cspan definitely gives a person a better understanding of what is happening. No questions about it. But it is a passive exercise, as there is nothing you have done or can do or will do to change the outcome of what is happening.
    It seems that you are way behind the curve here my friend. That was written a long time agao but no matter you read it that is important. To your question yes watching CPAN is a start, i agree a passive start but a start. The next step is active participation but looks like that is something which will not be allowed to happen by all the senior members and donors of IV

    4. Let us hope that this DV bill goes somewhere - what kind of activities do you suggest we should do to prepare for it? With specific details, you may be able to persuade people.
    Ok my friend this is being asked so many times and it is painfull (Physcially) to type it again and again and so i will do it just once more and i would request all IV members donors to read about it here not ask the qeustion again and again but refer to this section which i have highlighted

    I have some plans and ideas. I am sure it would be duplicates of what you intelligent people people have already talked about and maybe implemented in full. Now for me to talk about my ideas (which you ask because you doubt my intentions) i would say i also doubt you guys intentions. I get abuses and specially i have MINUS 2000 points (That many people hated my idea), so for me to talk about it i need some questionable action from you guys who gave me reds because you beleive i am wrong and now want me to explain myself but you yourselves will not change you attitude or hostility



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  • grupak
    12-14 05:05 PM
    Simple. If it wasn't for that ceiling the vast majority of the visas will go to applicants from the oversubscribed countries. Now this is not a bad thing if the visas are in unlimited supply. But since that's not the case, the country ceiling ensures that even people from smaller nations will get an equal oportunity to claim a visa before all the visa are grabbed by their BIG brothers and sisters. And what's more what ever is left is given back to the oversubscribed countries.

    How can you call that unfair? Is it fair to deprive a person from a smaller country, equal chance to have go at his GC?

    Country quota for family based immigration prevents giving any nationality a head start in cornering all the GC for themselves. And country quota to promote diversity makes sense because the basis of GC is family ties.

    Employment based GC is based on employer filing for GC. Skilled people can come from all over the globe. The basis is skill. Even without a country quota, a small country with educated and skilled workers are not at any disadvantage compared to a large country with poorly trained workers. So, I do not understand your argument how the BIG countries are going to monopolize employment based GC. No nationality has a birth claim on skill. We are here because of our skills not our nationality.

    Let us not repeat the arguments of anti-immigrant restrictionist groups like PG.





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  • Subst_labor
    03-16 01:21 PM
    Verify with another lawyer also, basically your experience starts only after you graduate (after getting your degree and not after finishing college ie say you completed ur degree in may 2000 and recieved your degree in Dec 2000, your experience prior to Dec 2000 may not count)

    Do verify this with a good lawyer.

    yeah, i know this thing is dicey! thanks for your advice, need to look for another lawyer now..



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  • songlan
    08-30 10:15 AM
    I did the PR Canadian immi. myself and got the approval. The process is straightforward . However, I hesitate to go there . From what I heard is diffucult to get IT job.





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  • bajrangbali
    05-29 12:10 AM
    Thank you for all your contributions all these years on H1B and all the social security and medicare taxes you have paid. Now please move on and let the natives take ur place or let the newbies take ur place before you complete your 10yrs and get a GC and stand in line for retirement benefits in future.

    So many divisions in EB caterogy, EB 1/2/3, china/india/phil/row... they are using these categories like a caste system to turn EB immigrants against each other. As they say..it is never a problem until it happens to you... atleast now ALL categories people should come out with one voice against the EB system..

    20 million illegals have a shot at legal residency and work-permit...HALF-million so called highly skilled immigrants cant make the pick?? Maybe we need to be pushed down even more before we stand up...

    I would suggest everyone all half-million apply for canadian PR..even though their system gets flooded..this would send a message..
    Even if Canadian PR takes 3yrs (currently 6-18mos)...much better than waiting 10 or more years constantly being abused by RFEs, biometrics, immunizations like animals..

    Those of us who are entrepreneurs think seriously about taking the business offshore...

    leverage people...gotta have some leverage...



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  • bestin
    02-13 05:43 AM
    Agreed dude.

    But the system is totally messed up and we cant have an overnight change .Even if they initiate something now by the time it gets actually implemented it shuld be more than 1 year.If nothing works out within atleast 1.5 years to 2 years this should be definitely considered.





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  • tikka
    07-03 11:40 PM
    http://digg.com/politics/Rep_Lofgren_Issues_Statement_on_Updated_Visa_Bulle tin - 229 DIGS

    http://digg.com/politics/U_S_Withdraws_Offer_of_60_000_Job_Based_Visas_Ange ring_Immigration_Lawyer/who 40 DIGS

    http://digg.com/politics/USCIS_Visa_scandal - 31 DIGS



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  • mps
    08-18 06:46 PM
    he should be thankful to Indian Embassy... just imagine what would have happened to him if he was from a country west of India :-)





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  • nrk
    09-15 04:42 PM
    By seeing numbers, i am seeing a ray of hope with in one year i should hear some good news. Thanks for the R&D of all IV members


    Here are my Estimate of pending EB2 India case for give years

    <=2004 2000
    2005 10000
    2006 13000
    2007(july) 5000
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    Total 30000
    ==============

    This number is very close to Ron Gocthers number prediction a few months back (minus sept approvals).

    Collaboration on visa quota data/analysis - Page 6 - Immigration Information Discussion Forum (http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/general-immigration-questions/8419-collaboration-on-visa-quota-data-analysis-6.html)

    Pending as of 15 July 2009 145000
    EB2 50000
    EB3 94000
    EB2India (2.4/3.5 EB2) 35714

    We can use the LCA number and come close these numbers as well

    2005
    EB2 India LCA for 2005 = RIR (3000) + PERM (60% of 7290) ~ 7400
    Assuming 20% abandon applicant we get = 5900
    1.2 dependent per applicant give ~ 13000 I-485 applicantions
    Assuming 10% approved in 2008 and 10% rejected/abandon I-485 and 5% cross-charageability we get => pending 10000 pending I-485 application for 2005

    2006
    India PERM applications = 18000
    EB2 India PERM applications (60%) = 10800
    Assuming 20% abandon applicant we get = 8640
    1.2 dependent per applicant give ~ 19000 I-485 applicantions
    Assuming 10% approved in 2008 and 10% rejected/abandon I-485 and 10% cross-charageability we get => pending 13000 pending I-485 application for 2006

    So if we see spillover of more than 30K the date will move beyond July 2007.



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  • Picasa
    07-30 02:15 PM
    Are you a Amway leech too?
    Here is a definition of Amway (and psaxena)
    An organism that lives in or on and takes its nourishment from another organism. A Amway leech(and psaxena)cannot live independently.

    Amway (and psaxena) diseases include infections by protozoa, helminths, and arthropods

    Wait a min , how much had you?? Your status is Member and Kaushal's is a Donor.. wait a min let me think who is donating and who is a FREELOADER here.

    The guy is doing something to make his life better, atleast making an attempt to do something better, why do you losers are trying to demotivate and shoot him down.

    No work is small or big , good or bad , work is work.. you wanna do it , just do it , else walk to out. Do not exhibit the desi attitude "I won't do it as what someone will say and also do not let any one else do it." Grow up.





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  • srikondoji
    06-26 12:19 PM
    the USCIS may retrogress the dates mid month due to heavy load of applications in july.
    However my lawyer just confirmed that
    It is not possible for visa numbers to retrogress mid-month.



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  • maccaid
    08-18 10:06 PM
    I'm not from India, so you know how non-Indian will look at this issue.

    First of all, thanks to IV for helping our cause.
    Same as vinzen, that I usually just browse through this kinda topic, but I can't help to reply.

    Have several question:
    1. How many non-Indian in USA that watch bollywood movie? So, what makes him a high profile in the eyes of Immigration officer (IO)? Do we need to educate all IO to recoqnize all the actors in India, Pakistan, China, Japan, Korea and all others?
    I personally never heard of this SRK guy before reading this thread. So how would you guys expect the immigration officer, who's mostlikely non-Indian, would know this guy? I agree with Pappu that says "He is a famous actor to a very very small minority Indian Community in USA".
    2. Looking at how he make big deal of this in media. He probably cause this delay by himself. I can imagine the conversation at the immigration office as (copying all the answer from Ryan's earlier comment on what he's asked for when he came here):
    IO: Why are you visiting US?
    SRK: Do you know that I'm SRK?
    IO: Who do you work for?
    SRK: I'm SRK, now let me pass.
    IO: Where will you live in US?
    SRK: I'm SRK
    IO: How long have you been in US?
    SRK: I'm SRK
    IO: Do you have family here?
    SRK: I'm SRK
    And it goes on and on for 66 mins or 2 hrs until he finally realize that he's a nobody in US.

    This is the kinda thread that non-Indian will laugh at. There's lots of non-Indian that goes to this public forum (such as me). Just trying to help IV to not lose credential just because of this sorts of "indian" exclusive thread.





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  • nixstor
    07-03 09:24 PM
    I am trying an outline for sending to media + lawmakers + ...

    The following is a very rough draft without reading some of the letters posted in the thread. I will read the posts tomorrow and polish it by tomorrow evening. I will need everyone's input since I don't know all the issues.

    What happened

    USCIS announced at the time the forms were due.
    Applicants started filling forms 2-3 weeks before July 2.
    Applicants changed their schedules to submit forms.


    Advantages of EAD + AP
    Don't know all!

    Travel without visa -> saves Embassy overhead.
    Spouse can work.
    Can switch job.

    Why does it hurt

    Medical will not be valid after 1 year.
    Fees more then doubling
    Name checking (which can take 1+ year) done in parallel with waiting for GC #.
    Load balancing for USCIS.
    USCIS which is supported 90% by application fee needs to care for applicants.
    Very little chance of legislative relief for a looong time.


    Excellent,

    I am planning to come up with a format for calling key senators and congress men on Thursday morning. Lets do this. Mean while please keep digging and blogging.



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  • cps060
    03-20 03:17 PM
    Hello Tito,

    Could you explain what is the Returning Resident Permit ? Who can apply for that ? Also are you suggesting that once you have that document, even after one's PR card expires, one can enter CA al long as the Returning Resident Permit is valid ?

    Also I asked this question even before .... Can a person whose PR is going to expire or going to be more than 3 years old .... can a fresh PR application be filed ?


    Hi, I experienced similar situation. This is what I did:
    Upon getting my PR and landing in Canada, I got job offer in the beautiful US. I kept visiting Canada every month, I kept bank account active there, I bought a car in Canada and transferred to the US (that was silly, don't do that) etc just in case I needed to prove certain ties to Canada and it would be transfer car to Canada again if I needed to go back.

    Then 1 year passed. I retained my PR just fine. However, when entering Canada, the immigration officer advised that I was going to end up losing my Canadian PR if I start going back and forth. At that point I applied for the Returning Resident permit. I wen to Canadian embassy in Seattle. Lady who attended me was very rude and told me that working in the US was not a valid excuse to stay out of Canada for 2 years. Then I claimed that I wanted to go back to Canada to open business there with my US experience within 2 years. Lady finally said "you guys don't love Canada, you just love the US". From there she signed the Returning Resident Permanent residency paper for 2 years. Now, five years have passed and I guess my Canadian PR status is unknown. I guess I could just return if I wanted. Last week I went there to visit a friend (it was raining like crazy in Vancouver, BC) and I entered the country without any questions. Therefore if you manage to get in, I guess all my PR status would still be valid.





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  • sledge_hammer
    02-04 10:30 AM
    :(

    http://www.murthy.com/nflash/nf_020207.html


    There is already a thread that addresses this issue -

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3073





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  • nixstor
    07-03 04:24 PM
    Any other way you can get in touch with her... phone??


    I already tried. Looks like she is gone for the holiday. Call 202 513 2000 and by pressing the numbers on the phone you can get to her VM as of now.





    mallu
    02-13 02:00 PM
    Well, i see only congress can do it. But still, in the EB skill based immigration that law is barbarian. Do companies find the much needed critical talent based on country of birth ?





    dvb123
    02-15 02:46 PM
    Dvb, did you read the ruling? It denies relief and says that:

    "We therefore join the Seventh and Eleventh Circuits in concluding that, in the current circumstances, the language Congress used precludes the INS from issuing a visa pursuant to the DV Program for a given fiscal year upon the expiration of that fiscal year. See Nyaga, 323 F.3d at 914; Iddir v. INS, 301 F.3d 492, 501 (7th Cir. 2002).8
    8. Had Coraggioso sought relief prior to the expiration of the 1998 fiscal
    year, our analysis may have been different."

    So this case is not helpful to us, though it is good for us to be aware of its existence.

    I read the end and it was unfortunate. I was talking about visa number reservation where they can reserve visa numbers for us in the future years based on the previous mistake they did. The court can compel USCIS to give visa numbers but maybe not in the same year but in a period of several years where there can put the newly applied i-485's on hold.



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